

Tactics talk
By: MAD | August 12th, 2009
The Silly Season is at the endgame stage of the weird chess match between player, agent, other team sporting director and our heroes at Corso Vittorio Emanuele II.
At this point, I think that the team that we have right now is more or less (pleeeeeeeease let it be less) the team that we are going to start the season with.
Allowing for the fact that there will most likely be a proper season preview of our Fab 30 (!?) up some time closer to the season opener, instead of looking at players now, I would like to – although it’s wildly speculative and may be subject to radical change – take a look at the team’s strategy and tactics.
This isn’t intended to be a lecture, it’s just a fun exercise about how I see the club being run on the manager level and the hope is that people will jump in and give their 2 dinari. Mourinho is a good manager, I think, but there are lots of ways to run a team.
First of all I would like to say that this didn’t come out of thin air. I am familiar with an author – I am sure that many of you are too – named Jonathan Wilson. He wrote a book about his view on the evolution of formations in football called Inverting the Pyramid. It was a so-so read and Mr. Wilson sometimes writes articles for the Guardian Uk. The most recent one that I read, talked about – as usual for him and one of the reasons I don’t particularly rave about his book – English tactics. But it made me think about Inter and here we are.
Strategy
Before we can decide how we are gong to conduct war each week, we need an overarching doctrine. In my opinion, Mourinho, to my knowledge, has never come out and declared his manifesto on the perfect team. But judging from what I have seen last season and some anecdotal evidence I think that he has 4 basic tenets:
We will defend. Mourinho’s offense comes from the defense although it’s not necessarily the traditional counter attack that lovers of calcio are connoisseurs of. Mourinho’s defense starts in the midfield and it starts in the attacker’s side of midfield, if possible. See also, Inter’s goal against Monaco this preseason is a perfect example of what Mourinho’s idea of perfect defense does.
We will possess the ball. Mourinho’s will is to limit attacks on his team by not letting other teams have the ball very long, or often. To do this every band, or level, of the team from the attack, through the midfield and even the defense must be able to pass the ball and keep possession. This more than anything else was the reason for the quest of Carvalho and the acquisition of Lucio. Mourinho likes having someone to pass the ball from the defense up or from the field back – reliably.
We will control the center. Mourinho likes the 451 formation. Why? Consider this; the only 442 based formation he plays puts two players up the spine of the field – kind of like the 451. In Chess and in football the basics are the same: either control the middle, or do not allow the opponent to. The opponents are then forced to work the flanks where there is less risk for us and it’s less likely that our opponents will have dangerous players there. Consider, in all of our rivals in Serie A, the most dangerous players (Ronaldinho, Pato, del Piero, Amauri, Totti, Vucinic, Gilardino, Miccoli, Floccari, etc.) are located where on the field?
We will use the width of the field. Ever wonder why a player like Maicon always seems to be running all alone down the sideline? It’s a given that if we glut the middle of the field with players in an attempt to control it, then our opponents will be forced to do the same. It sets up an attack from the outside. Here’s a better question – with all the raw talent on this team, why is it that the fullbacks are our most dangerous outside threat? That’s always bugged me a little.
Tactics
Tactics aren’t necessarily synonymous with formations, in my opinion. Rather, it’s the combination of a formation’s responsibilities with the correct deployment of players. Mourinho likes to use a base 433 – which we should all know by now isn’t necessarily 4 across the back, 3 across the middle and 3 across the front. For Mourinho, it’s more like a 451 or 4321.
From last season, the three formations that Mourinho played are:



They were fine formations to use and they all had some common attributes. We defended well; we controlled the center of the field in most games and we used at least 4 midfielders, 3 of which were defensive, which means that we kept the majority of the possession in most of our games.
But we couldn’t use the width of the field very well in the 451. Last season, we had 4 players with experience as outside midfielders/wingers – Stankovic, who spent his whole career before becoming “Mourinho’s Summer 08 Project” as an outside attacking right midfielder; Figo, who has always been a winger; Mancini, who was a winger with Roma and Quaresma, who has played as a winger his whole career. We also have the very versatile Mario who is always asked to play some forward position besides striker. Despite all these attacking players, with all their experience as wingers, our best option for the outside attack was still our fullbacks – Maicon and Santon /Chivu/Maxwell. We did a little better later in the season by moving the wingers back a bit and closer to the middle but allowing the fullbacks, who were still our best option going forward from the outside, the room to maraud up the sideline to their hearts’ content.
This season Mourinho has decided that we are going in with a 442 rhombus from the start.
There will have to be a shakeup in the roster for this to work.
We don’t have Figo to play the winger/playmaker anymore. And we will need to displace a midfielder in order to accommodate another striker – which one? Also, what do we do about Santon? Is he our best option at left fullback? Is Zanetti still? Which combination of midfielder goes best with the 442? Does anyone actually think that we have seen the last of the 451 or the 4321?
Is this our best 11 in the 442?
Cesar
Maicon, Samuel, Lucio, Santon
Zanetti, Cambiasso, Muntari
Stankovic
Milito, Eto’o
Or is this our best 11:
Cesar
Maicon, Lucio, Chivu, Zanetti
Stankovic, Cambiasso, Muntari
Balotelli
Milito, Eto’o
I am going to get killed for this one, but the notion has to be faced sometime.
Cesar
Maicon, Chivu, Samuel, Santon
Stankovic, Cambiasso, Muntari
Motta
Milito, Eto’o
Just for laughs, my 4321 with the current roster
Cesar
Maicon, Lucio, Samuel, Santon
Zanetti, Cambiasso, Muntari
Stankovic, Balotelli
Eto’o
And I will leave you with some vintage Zanetti:
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Very good article MAD, this can be a never ending discussion.
My views….
How about the formation as 4312, Stankovic / Balotelli playing the role behind the strikers Eto’o and Milito. The Midfield could be from Zanetti, Cambiasso, Muntari, Motta. Defense is perfect with Maicon, Chivu, Lucio and Santon.
In the midfield, the outside players can play a little clustered in middle, so that it is packed well and will leave good space for Maicon and Santon to come forward. Among the forwards, there should be one player wide and behind the ball good enough to support any attack if it is through wings depending on which side it is (Left Eto’o, Right Milito). The attacking mid-fielder can come in the box during such attack and Stankovic / Balotelli both can be very handy like this.
As you mentioned about our coach’s defense startegy which starts right in the attaacker’s half, I totally agree with this. and who else than Zanetti / Cambiasso can do this better.
Further, depending upon the opposite team strengths, I feel we should use Quaresma / Mancini as well and change the formation to a 4141, same defense, Zanetti as defensive midfielder, Cambiasso, Muntari, Motta, Mancini, Quaresma (4 among these) in midfield, with the wingers on an offensive. Forward can be Milito / Eto’o. Preferably Eto’o as he controls the ball better. Infact, this formation will be more like a 433 but with the wingers supporting the midfield as well. This strategy can be very useful against sides which play with a dense midfield of 5 players.
Let me know what you think about this.
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I’m really hoping we manage to get a creative player in before the end of the window.
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Nice work MAD are u sure Mourinho hasn’t contacted u to share this with the Inter fans ( just kidding ) well cos u will be a very good tactical coach if ever u dream of becoming one .
It seems like u have helped many to overcome their anemia since just when u thought u will be killed for leaving our CAPITO out on bench many come out backing u , but i don’t agree he is a very dynamic player knows all and is always giving 100% he loves this club and he is not showing any signs of 36 so i say we should leave him for another year let him do what he does best . But i don’t believe he would play LB all season am sure Santon would and he will shift to midfield , Mourinho didn’t want to bench Motta because he is a new signing but if he gives the same performance he showed against Lazio then he should go ask Quaresma and Mancini . Also i would love Balotelli us our deep hold midfield player he can dribble , has a good vision , can pass and very strong also all Mourinho needs is to let him work hard on training, the good thing is that he is only 19 years( Happy Billated B’day to him ) so he can learn and am sure our future star can do it .Posted from
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Here is a completely different way of thinking:
Considering the options this team has in the midfield, try this on for size:
Starting Fullbacks: LB Santon. RB Zanetti.
Bench Maicon to make way for Santon. Bold huh? Yup!
I’d prefer to see Motta/Deki play in front of Zanetti on the right. Plain and simple, Zanetti is just a better defender than Maicon. Stronger, smarter, more skilled. He can carry the ball but usually opts to make the safe pass or play the one two through the mid. He rarely makes mistakes and almost never gets caught in possession. And Deki/Motta are just more effective in the Midfield than Zanetti can be. Most of Zanetti’s time in the midfield was spent thinking and covering for Maicon (who does not think and this held us back) while he ran up and made crosses that, 10 out 12 times, would hit the defender right in front of him or find no one. Who was it winning balls near the goal line, or on the edge of the 18 last season?
Santon needs to be on the pitch. He is too good not to be.
There, I said it
Kill me if you want to, cuss me out do whatever but that’s the way I think. As I have said before, Maicon should have been sold if the team could have got 30-40 Million for him. I would have then turned around and made Lazio an offer for Kolarov that they could not refuse, bought a play maker and still would be able to laugh all the way to the bank with a boat full of cash. Again, at 28 how much better could Maicon possibly get before he starts to decline?
4-3-1-2:
Zanetti, Lucio, Chivu, Santon
Deki/Motta, Cambiasso, Muntari
Balotelli,
Milito, Eto’o4-3-3:
Zanetti, Lucio, Chivu, Santon
Deki/Motta, Cambiasso, Muntari
Balo/RQ, Milito, Eto’o4-3-2-1:
Zanetti, Lucio, Chivu, Santon
Deki/Motta, Cambiasso, Muntari
Balo, Eto’o
Milito4-2-3-1 – Though I don’t like this formation for Inter:
Zanetti, Lucio, Chivu, Santon
Motta, Cambiasso
Deki, Balo, RQ(Eto’o?)
Milito/Eto’oIf Zanetti starts to decline then throw Maicon in.
And of course if this play maker ever comes, you could twist and turn it 100 different ways.
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@MAD: Before I start to read I’m jumping all the way down here to post. I incidently just ordered Wilson’s book last night and I’m looking forward to the read; tactics are always a fun conversation. Ok, now time to read and perhaps post something meaningful afterwards.
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How dare anyone suggest that Zanetti is mortal? That’s just preposterous.
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Paolo, you have a point about Maicon’s defensive frailities, and Zanetti covering for him, but the fact remains that Maicon is one of our only real attacking threats right now. It irritates me as well when he overdoes the crossing bit, but when you think about it, he’s probably the only player we have right now, along with Quaresma, who is willing to take on the opposition and dribble and create spaces. Like it or not, we need that, especially given we still don’t have a trequartista. An alternative idea could be to use Maicon in midfield or even in attack. He does have the qualities to be a good winger / outside attacker. Remember that Spalletti transformed Mancini the same way.
And about the Zanetti doubters – I agree that someday Zanetti will not be able to offer the same amount of committment and work-rate that he has been for the last 14 years, but right now, he is second to none in that department. MAD mentioned in his post on Inter’s training methods about how Zanetti and Cambiasso were the two most active participants, and how they never stopped running. Further, there are many occasions when we need a tactical reshuffle during the game. Either we need to bring in an extra attacker, or we need to bring in an extra defender. In times like these, it is amazingly useful to have a player like Zanetti who can play all along the back line and midfield. And even if you leave out the small matter of him being a club legend, that work-rate and versatility is enough to warrant him a starting spot. Maybe as the season wears on, we may notice a decline. He is after all 36 now. But he’s been a beast all these years, and he doesn’t look like he’s slowing down at all.
I may be alone in this, but I don’t think Eto’o and Milito should play together, or at least start together. In my view, they are two very similar players and hence do not offer tactically diverse options. Both their games are based on finding space for themselves, making runs and getting into good positions, and most importantly, both are penalty box specialists. A good strike force should be able to ripple the net from anywhere upto 25 metres out. True, Eto’o has scored a few screamers in his career, but they’re not his bread and butter goals. I think the optimal use of our resources would be to play Balotelli with one of these guys, with Balotelli starting at all times. He’s our magic man now, and y’all saw the difference he made when he came on against Lazio. And tactically, he completes both Eto’o and Milito in a way they cannot do for each other.
Last big para, I promise!
I notice that Muntari has quite a few fans around here, so much so that you guys prefer him over Deki and Motta. For the life of me, I cannot understand why. He’s a good player, no doubt, with plenty of grit and steel, but Deki and Motta are both more intelligent players with a better understanding of the game. I would always start these two over Muntari, but maybe that’s just me.So finally, here are my preferred formations for this season:
4-3-1-2
Maicon – Lucio – Chivu – Santon
Zanetti – Cambiasso – Motta
Deki/Arna/RQ
Eto’o/Milito – Balotelli4-3-3/4-3-2-1/4-5-1
Maicon – Lucio – Chivu – Santon
Zanetti – Cambiasso – Motta/Deki
Arna/RQ – Balotelli
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Vinod, when you say: “A good strike force should be able to ripple the net from anywhere upto 25 metres out.”
That’s where Balo, Deki and Motta, and hopefully one more player, come in. Three (4 hopefully) players who can shoot the ball with skill from distance with 2 classic box players. Eto’o does stray from the box more and is willing to come back win the ball and carry it up, it seems. If Quaresma ever finds his way then he is super dangerous from anywhere 30 yards and in, left side or right side. Mancini I have no hope for.
Preferably I do not want to see Deki anywhere near the centre of the pitch this season. He is far more effective on the flank in my opinion. Give him 3 directions in which he can go, simplify his running and his role and he could be a joy to watch again and a threat to other teams. This is why all of my formations have him at right midfield. Maybe Motta would be better for central roles if need be.
I don’t know how to factor Arnautovic into any of this. Aside from youtube clips (which tell me almost nothing) I have not seen him play. I do not know his strengths or tendencies and have no clue who he could play off or who could play off of him.
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in my opinion our ideal formation is
JC
maicon-lucio-samuel-chivu
zanetti-cambiasso-motta
eto’o-balo
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santon, for as good as he is cannot beat chivu and maicon for those wing back psoitions, at least not right now.
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Paolo, the assumptions on the play of arna ive made is that:
- he’s pretty calm in front of goal
- he likes to take on his man
- he like to come in from the wing
- he has a decent shot
- ball control is pretty good
- good with both feet (left looks like its his favoured tho)
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… benching Maicon? wwwwwwh-what? sometimes you read things you just can’t believe you’ve just read.
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If I was Inter Coach:
4-2-3-1 against bigger opponents:
JC
Douglas, Walter, Lucio, Davide
Cambiasso Jav
M. Balotelli, Deki/Motta/new trequartista, Q,Mancini,Suazo/Deki
Eto/Milito4-2-3-1 Is the best to provide defensive stability+dictates transitions. Euro 2008 showed us the benefits of 4-2-3-1, as many of the teams were playing it, and we saw amazing counter attacking. Inter has the players to play almost any formation, but I think we are best suited to a counter attacking style. The only weakness with this formation is that the “1″ had better be good. Well, we have Eto, who has proven to be the best (Sorry Drogba) solo striker in Europe over the last three years.
In other games
4-1-3-2 A la Spain
JC
Douglas Chivu Lucio Santon
Cambiasso
Balotelli Deki/Motta/New trequartista Q/ Mancini/Suazo/Deki
Milito, EtoDominant, pressing teams should work on getting as many players in the other teams half as possible. This formation allows us to do that. The only weakness is the long ball, but that back four should be fast enough to handle anything. Chivu comes in for Samuel for the “passing” aspect, although I feel that WS’s left foot is underrated, even if he could improve his decisions on when to go long and when to go short.
MAD: I didn’t think ITP focused on “english” tactics too much at all, and Wilson is know for his superior knowledge of the game in Eastern Europe more than for being another zenophobic english journalist. I’d highly recommend ITP to anyone seeking to gain an understanding of the evolution of tactics, and anyone seeking to gain an understanding of the evolution of Inter’s tactics could do worse than read Mourinho; Anatomy of a Winner. Two things that come out of that book are that Jose loves the idea of “resting in posession” ie possession for possession’s sake, keeping the ball in the middle-to-defensive third to wear the other team down for minutes at a time, and his firm belief in the space between the traditional “three bands”. This explains his love of the 4-3-3 and his use of Deki last year.
Anyways, good ideas everyone. My favorite part about pondering Inter’s tactics is realizing that we do have one of the best squads in Europe and a plethora of options. I’m jonesing for the start of this season.
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Report:
Inter like Gourcuff and it is no longer a secret. Mourinho likes the idea of build the future on the former Rosoneri. But everything at the end has been decided. At least for this year, Sneijder WILL BE the new trequartista for Inter. Don’t believe the statement from the Dutch and his agent. The deal is DONE.
There is an agreement in principle between Inter and Real and lacking only the signature of the player. Florentino Perez will receive 8.5 now and 10.5 million in June 2010, when Sneijder will permanently an Inter player. The Dutch seems now has been convinced by the Nerazzurri and is ready, in a few days sign a contract till 2013, 3.7 million per year.
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http://www.24oredisport.com/?action=read&idnotizia=15620
Link for the report above.
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Paolo, my point was that instead of two classic penalty-box strikers, I would rather have one, and leave the other slot open to another player such as Quaresma / Arna who play from deeper and run at opponents. Kirby sums up my thoughts on Arna’s abilities perfectly. And I agree with you in hoping that Quaresma comes good this season – when he’s on his game, he’s one of the most unstoppable players.
b-52 made a good point about our defence. I’m not sure if I mentioned this earlier, but I think that we have 3 excellent pairings in central defence, which we can use based on our opponent’s qualities. Lucio-Samuel would be my preferred CBs when we play teams that rely on physical and aerial play. Lucio-Cordoba would be my preferred CBs when we play teams that are exceedingly quick. For all other opponents, Lucio-Chivu would be my choice since they can hold Mourinho’s high defence together. Chivu, great as he is, is none too strong in the air, nor too quick. He’s a highly intelligent player and a phenomenal reader of the game, but there are times when you need brute force and pace over anything else.
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Interesting. Especially considering that Le Parisien is saying that Inter have made a 25 million euro offer for Gourcuff.
http://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/Calciomercato/13-08-2009/parisien-offerta-inter-501025064534.shtml
What to believe?
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Julio Cesar
Maicon Lucio Chivu J.Zanetti
Muntari Cambiasso T.Motta
Stankovic
Eto’o Milito
We could use Samuel or Cordoba for Chivu to start, and Zanetti needs to leave Santon play more often this season i prefer to play Zanetti only as a defender he can’t atack the way this inter wants to atack this season with respect to our captian.
I saw a nice INTER against MILAN in FOXBORO MA. and a nicer team against LAZIO i think we played almost a perfect game with LAZIO we need to finish the chances we have LUCIO had 3 headers.. Stankovic had a nice chance Muntari Suazo at the end Etoo had anothoer good chance so we just lacked finishing i’m sure mourinho has never saw inter play better football before than the one against Lazio he liked it i liked it i think he will stick with that formation mark my words… he will only improve the last play and inter will be all set im sure and im confident that we have a good team and will compete on all three fronts this season we will play some good football FORZA INTER.Posted from
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Inter Forever u raised my spirit but then i calmed down and thought for a minute and remembered i just read it from a sport website so there is a high possibility that it can end up being untrue , it will be a dream team but am not sure Perez will accept 8.5 mil for now ,why ?
1… because the guy has spend a huge sum of money and will only sell to balance
2…Sneidjer is in the plans of Real Madrid coach
3… There are many teams like Chelsea and others who will pay outright 25 mil to get his signature
4… Real Madrid has a huge squad and are selling to limit the number of players why would they sell someone they’ve given a number to and leave VDV whiles they no Inter may think of taking VDV , it will cos them financially if they don’t sell VDV soon so i don’t see why they will commit to selling a player who has a number and not first finding a club for a player who if care isn’t taking can leave for free .
So for me taking this 4 things into high consideration i just concluded that this will never come true except and i mean except
1… We pay an outright of 20-25 mil for Sneidjer
2… We have given them first option to buy Maicon or we are going to sell Maicon Or we have decided to sell Maicon to them next year
3… We are buying both VDV and Sneidjer which means us a discount for paying for Sneidjer we get VDV for maybe 4-5 Mil .
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Kenny– Don’t be surprise that is what the nice man in the photo above delivers if giving the chance. I play FIFA 09 with VDV and Sneidjer with the current squad and am surprise by how better the team plays , last year with Ibra in my FIFA i rely more on him and his strength but now without him i try passing more , opening gaps and sending good crosses from Maicon and Chivu must confess i play Chivu and Maicon on wing backs and Lucio Samuel in defense , Samuel always stays back while Lucio is always pushing the team forward , Santon is developing , Balletoli is a killer in FIFA 09 comes on for Mancini or Quaresma to hold flanks , tried him in the middle role while didn’t work for me so bought VDV and Sneidjer today and i tell u what Sneidjer is giving me that Midfield spark , great free kicks , corners and passes , VDV well he has a good shots , free kicks hmm to almost the same direction but pass wise he is fantastic. So which one should i keep Inter fans ? cos will send one back to Real Madrid .
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Kenny i read ur post over again and i think u better Omit this ” Zanetti needs to leave ” please say maybe needs to be benched or any other word but leave men please.
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i meant to say leave santon play more games…
the captain is good strong dont missunderstand and has scored some very important goals on his career i like him a lot but at the same time we need a new style of play on our team and to do that we must learn to do it with all our players that we have and find a way that youngsters can adopt to the play.. take an example BARCELONA look at their game style …look at their young talents they got all we need to do is copy them because eventually thats how every team wants to play like barca… right now barca is a team to admire.. thanks forza inter…Posted from
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Sneijder: “Everything can change in 15 days” and he leaves door open “I heard that Mourinho considers me as his first choice and I’m very happy. He is a great manager and trains a great team. If I decided to leave Madrid, Inter would be a good option.”
And apparently his family has been talking about moving to Italy lately.
Source: Gazzetta
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I refuse to believe anything about this 3/4ista thing until I read on the team site. I am just sick of every player being linked with us.
I would rather some players being linked away from us. I noticed last night as I wrote that there were players without numbers. I would think that they get the hint…
As far as lineups go, giving youth a chance is a hard call. There is a reason why older players are given the nod more often – they don’t screw up as much. That simple.
Santon and Mario can be great players in the future, but the cold hard truth is that right now, they probably are not first choice worthy. However, the potential can be acknowledged by playing more games like Coppa, group stage of Champions League – I don’t think that Moratti will put up with too much of that though, not this year – and teams like Bari.
With the inclusion of Motta and Milito I think that moving Zanetti back to fullback is a good move. Santon can rotate with Maicon and Javier and we can get more balance, experience and rest at those positions.
I wouldn’t forget that Eto’o sometimes played on the right wing of a 433 at Barcelona. A front 3 of, from left to right, Mario, Milito and Eto’o isn’t exactly fantasy…
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Keep up the good work Inter Forever and Kenny yes Barce are the CL winners and every team wants to win but then any team that wins becomes the talk of town so is normal with their current position .I don’t agree with you which Barce young-stars are u talking about Busquets play a couple of games , Bojan well we all know what is happening to him ,they loaned their young right back to Juventus meaning still relying on Alvez and Puyol on right wings , apart from Iniesta and Messi but then u remember they played fiddle to players like Deco and Ronaldinho before , Santon can not just play because he has a great future he is just 18 meaning more years to learn and 2 more to learn from bench and come on us substitute for the time being.
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