The Derby on the European Stage – Gregor’s First Derby

By: Johonna | February 14th, 2009

Derby madnessWhile we await Sunday’s derby, let us turn our attention to the other, non-Serie A meetings between Inter and AC Milan. Over the years, Inter and Milan have met approximately 100 times outside of the championship (I say approximately because the last tally I could find outside wikipedia was from 2007). Of these, four were meetings in the Champions League. There is no easy way to say this, but… Inter did not win a single one of those matches. We managed to draw two of them, but the other two, both in 2005, were losses. Our last UCL tie, April 4, was the infamous game in which Dida was struck by a flare thrown from the Curva Nord. In the end, the game had to be abandoned and Milan went on to the finals against Liverpool (Milan lost the final on penalties). I in no way condone fan violence, but the incident did produce one of my favorite Derby images (see above). Despite being on opposite sides, Materazzi and Rui Costa watch the madness as friends, or at least as colleagues; opposing combatants united in the face of real violence. The image reminds me that while it is fun to be a fan, you should never be a fanatic.

On that note, we have one more Derby remembrance. Gregor has offered his experience with those two April games:


Zanetti on the ball, April 2005 UCL game v Milan
The 2004-05 Champion’s League quarterfinal match-up between Inter and Milan was the game that made me the die-hard Inter fan that I am today. Before this game I had never followed any teams and I had hardly ever watched any games. I had been a player for a few years so I had a passion for the sport but so far I had not found any teams to commit myself to. In that season however my cousin, a total AC Milan fan, had started to get me into watching a few Serie A games. I remember seeing parts of a few Inter games and one player that I was really impressed with was their right back Zanetti. Now, back then I had no idea about the history that Zanetti had with the team but I was very interested in the team that had their right back as captain. I was looking for a role model that played in the right wing-back position (the position I still play today) and I believed I had found one in Zanetti.

At this time I was only beginning to develop a fondness for Inter but my attraction was mostly directed towards watching Il Capitano play. I was glad to see Inter advancing in the CL rounds but I had no idea what it meant when Inter drew AC Milan for the quarterfinal. My cousin however certainly had an idea of what it meant and invited me to watch the games. I guess she expected me to cheer for her team but when I began to applaud Inter she realized I was becoming a fan of the enemy! Soon the intense emotions of the Derby erupted inside our room and we had ourselves one exciting game! Even though Inter lost it only strengthened my appreciation of the team. Seeing the cocky AC Milan players boasting over their win got me angry and I wanted my role model Il Capitano to come back and lead our team to a total victory in the second-leg! Oh, and I had already developed a hatred of Shevchenko!

For the second-leg match I had ordered a Zanetti jersey and was very excited to see Inter win against Milan. Well, win they did not but what a game that was! I can’t remember ever being so fired up during a match before or since that one. The emotions I had during that intense match-up had built the strong foundation I now have for my love of Internazionale. I remember being so distraught and upset after the results of the decision to disallow Cambiasso’s goal and the infamous performance by the Interistas following the call.

Cambiasso Scores v Milan, April 2005 UCL Tie
Cambiasso’s disallowed goal

The Curva Nord erupts
The infamous performance by the Interistas

After that momentous match I began to follow Inter with heated interest and developed a great hatred for our cross-town rivals AC. Every derby since then has awakened some of the fiery emotions I experienced during the 04-05 quarterfinal Derby. Since that 2004-05 season I was so pleased to see Inter perform magnificently well under Mancini. I became a fan during the revival of a great team and I’m hoping that we ride this surge of victories for years to come! This coming Derby has gotten me filled with all of the old emotions I had during that first Derby I witnessed. Hopefully we can continue our dominance and show AC that they have no chance of catching up with us this season! Oh, and it is always such a delight to brag about a victory to my cousin!!
FORZA INTER!!!!


So, once again we see that even in defeat Inter finds new fans. As for the Sunday, it is neigh upon us. I dont know about you all, but I am starting to feel the pressure. I suspect that I will get through tomorrow on nervous energy alone – at least the obligatory Valentines Day dinner out will distract me for the evening. In any event, I will get a preview up tomorrow and we can hash out formations and whether or not Maicon will play.

I want to thank all of you for your contributions to the blog – this has been a whole lot of fun for me. I hope the readers enjoyed it also. Maybe we can do it again some time. Please feel free to email me with comments or complaints, tips or suggestions at johonnars [at] gmail [dot] com.

FORZA INTER

Inter 2 – 1 Milan, December 23, 2007



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  • ursus arctos |  February 14th, 2009 at 4:24 am

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    Ah, Mourinho being Mourinho.

    Maicon’s in the squad for tomorrow, with a “last minute fitness” test planned just before the match.

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  • E |  February 14th, 2009 at 4:52 am

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    I’d like to think that I am a pretty little angel but im not so BOY was I glad to see dida get struck by those flare the interisti threw at him during that 05 CL match up with milan ahaha he was pissing me the hell off with all those saves he was making that night , just seeing him lying on the ground got me feeling a little better then again he might have been acting like he did against celtic a couple of years ago ……….yea yea yea I know its not cool to feel that way but I’m just being honest

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  • MAD |  February 14th, 2009 at 8:10 am

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    Ahah! Cambiasso’s disallowed goal is a another reason all right thinking people should hate Milan.

    I remember how very unfair that was and how I angry/resigned I was. It was like a Juve moment, you knew they were dirty, rotten scoundrels (what a great movie though).

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  • Shandy |  February 14th, 2009 at 9:08 am

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    “So, once again we see that even in defeat Inter finds new fans” 100% agree with you bro. me myself became fans of inter after watching their match against juventus in scudetto race when ronaldo should have get penalty but the ref didn’t give it.after seeing that match i realize that inter is my team and juventus can go to hell.. LOL.. in my opinion every fans of inter have one similar personality that is we don’t like injustice. FORZA INTER !!!!

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  • marica |  February 14th, 2009 at 9:31 am

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    One of the funniest things this week was a picture of Mourinho out shopping in a ….TRACKSUIT!!

    He might as well have been naked or pooped in the street such was the horrified reaction of some Italians.

    That was the look that got him the most stylish man in Britain award 3 years running by the way :D

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  • Gianfranco |  February 14th, 2009 at 9:55 am

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    not sure what to make of the fact that most of the Inter fans sharing their memories were shaped in and around defeats, hopefully you make a few more fans tomorrow! It was great to read everyone’s thoughts and help to relive a lot of the past eight years or so which has really changed the shape of the derby with a strong revival of Inter.

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  • b-52 |  February 14th, 2009 at 10:09 am

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    Mourinho says he knows his team for tomorrow. I have to imagine it will be the exact same squad that faced Juventus, with Chivu coming in for Maxwell. 4-3-1-2. Douglas, Marco, Samuel, Chivu. Jav, Cambiasso, Sully. Stankovic. Ibra, Adri.

    Adriano will score at least two tomorrow. Redemption.

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  • Johonna |  February 14th, 2009 at 10:50 am

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    Gian, the sad truth is if you became an Inter fan before about 2006, it means your memories are shaped around defeat. Hence the whole scrappy underdog thing. Well, that and a bit of nihilism.

    In my research, I found a video shot from the Curva Nord while the flares are being thrown. The fans dont seem to care much that the game is being abandoned… sort of a “what’s the point” attitude. As I said, I dont condone violence in any way but, anthropologically speaking, the video is interesting:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPMSYGRxZIk

    There is some colorful language.

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  • Kabir |  February 14th, 2009 at 11:44 am

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    The Good: Goalkeepers: 1 Francesco Toldo, 12 Julio Cesar, 22 Paolo Orlandoni.

    Defenders: 2 Ivan Ramiro Cordoba, 6 Maxwell, 13 Maicon, 16 Nicolas Burdisso, 23 Marco Materazzi, 25 Walter Samuel, 26 Cristian Chivu, 39 Davide Santon.

    Midfielders: 4 Javier Zanetti, 5 Dejan Stankovic, 7 Luis Figo, 14 Patrick Vieira, 19 Esteban Cambiasso, 20 Sulley Muntari, 33 Amantino Mancini.

    Strikers: 8 Zlatan Ibrahimovic, 9 Julio Ricardo Cruz, 10 Adriano, 18 Hernan Crespo.

    The Evil: MILANELLO – Here are 19 players called up Carlo Ancelotti for tomorrow: Abbiati, Dida, Antonini, Favalli, Jankulovski, Kaladze, Maldini, Senderos, Zambrotta, Ambrosini, Beckham, Cardacio, Emerson, Flamini, Pirlo, Inzaghi, Pato, Seedorf, Ronaldinho.

    So Maicon is in at least for now, Vieira is in the squad but surely (??) won’t start. All our defenders are there. No Kaka, which I’m certainly not going to complain about, but I do hope Ronaldinho craps out.

    Less than 24 hrs now!!

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  • MAD |  February 14th, 2009 at 4:13 pm

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    “not sure what to make of the fact that most of the Inter fans sharing their memories were shaped in and around defeats”

    When I became a fan of Inter, Milan wasn’t even in Serie A. From their own doing.

    And I don’t want to speak for Paolo, but I think his derby memory has more to do with being at the game. If the forces of good were to win, I am sure that would have been icing on the cake.

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  • aaylin |  February 17th, 2009 at 2:21 am

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    La biancheria e l’arredo scendono in campo su Merchandisingplaza.

    Oggi la grande sfida è sugli schermi di http://www.merchandisingplaza.com!
    Le tre big del Campionato di Serie A Italiano (Inter, Milan e Juve) questa volta si sfidano sul portale mondiale del merchandising e la posta in palio è altissima: arredare le case dei tifosi di tutto il mondo.
    Senza perdere altro tempo passiamo alle formazioni:
    in porta lo splendido cuscino pronto a respingere morbidamente ogni pallone giunga dalle sue parti;
    la difesa a tre è composta dalla trapunta, il copripiumone ed il plaid capaci di proteggere anche dal freddo più rigido;
    il centrocampo a rombo ha i suoi vertici nella spugna, nel telo bagno, nel set cucina e nel set colazione per una mediana agile e scattante nelle ripartenze mattutine;
    infine l’attacco con le stelle accappatoio, telo mare e telo arredo a formare un tridente davvero bello da vedere…

    Affrettatevi la grande sfida è solo su Merchandisingplaza dove potrete acquistare tutta la biancheria e l’arredo ufficiale delle big del Campionato Italiano di Serie A…

    Ecco i link:
    Inter:
    http://www.merchandisingplaza.com/app/default.aspx?idcategoria=1&idbrand=7&nome=Inter
    Milan:
    http://www.merchandisingplaza.com/app/default.aspx?idcategoria=1&idbrand=5&nome=Milan
    Juve:
    http://www.merchandisingplaza.com/app/default.aspx?idcategoria=1&idbrand=4&nome=Juventus

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