Why does this guy matter?

By: MAD | July 14th, 2009


No, not the old animal who, almost Juventus like, can’t get a call against despite learning in the technical and prestigious (read: thug capital of the world) Scottish “Premier” League.

It’s good to be the Prime Minister’s dog…

I was actually talking about the other guy.

This transfer season, for those who are not called Real Madrid, has gone slow at the top. Outside of settling part-ownerships and loans, only Inter and Juventus have made significant signings of the Italian top three. Of the European bound not called Inter and Juventus the only other player this mercato is Genoa, who sold their two top guys for shopping money before they were able to go to the mall.

Inter has invested this past half decade in its youth system like never before as contributors here have said – to provide future players and future bargaining chips to lower actual cash expenditure. Moratti has come out and said that for the right price, no one is unsellable and he expects to lower the wage bill significantly in an effort to save during the current poor financial environment.

Stepping away from the business end of the team, Mourinho has been encouraging the youth push. He’s come out and said that the current team is older than he is used to working with and that he is on the same page with the owner for the current transfer policy – although that Mourinho charm seems to have worked its magic on the front office. We can expect to get younger and use the youth program to fill the roster. We have seen the fruits of this policy, which I personally think is a good one if a bit slow, as Figo, Crespo and Cruz three of our oldest players say goodbye and significantly younger – if not exactly young – players take their place.

So we need an injection of youth. And we need smart investment.

All of which brings us to young Ricky Quaresma.

Ricky is still relatively young, he’ll be 26 at the beginning of the season, and he represents a sizable investment. Depending on who you talk to, he cost between 22 – 30 million Euros (It was actually 18, those who hate Inter will increase the fee to exaggerate the size of his flop) + 20 year old Pele, who made exactly 2 appearances for Porto last year, and was such a star for them that he has since been loaned to Genoa.

Quaresma symbolizes a lot of different things to different people. To our enemies he’s proof that we are fallible. To the media he’s a joke. To the media that belongs to our enemies he’s a talking point as they commit an act of “Intellectual Prostitution”. To us Inter supporters he’s both hope and disappointment. To Mourinho, he’s a piece that last year failed to let us be more versatile tactically. And to Inter, he’s…

Well, we don’t know yet, do we? He’s, once again the big question of this mercato. We seem to know what we are getting with these other mainstream purchases – a prolific Serie A/La Liga scorer and a midfielder with possible health issues but otherwise proven by fire.

Without Ricky last season we ran a 4312 (Cesar, Maicon, Cordoba, Samuel, Santon, Zanetti, Cambiasso, Muntari, Deki, Ibra, Adriano) in which there doesn’t seem to be a space for him. Or we ran a 4321/433 (Cesar, Macion, Cordoba, Samuel, Santon, Zanetti, Cambiasso, Muntari, Figo, Ibra, Balotelli).

Before we get too much into this, there are 2 points to remember:

1. He made 19 appearances out of 30+ games (Serie A and Champions League) from
Sept – Feb. and we didn’t do so poorly in that time span.

2. It could be argued pretty well that we did better without him on the team.

So let’s say that he wows everyone with his renewed enthusiasm to play and blows the competition away. Where does he fit in?

Well, he’s an outside attacking player, so he either plays on the wing of a flat 442 – which we don’t really use, one of the attacking outside midfielder of a 4321 or one of the outside forwards in a 433 – the latter two formations we have definitely used in the past season. Ricky’s competition for playing time in the above formations would be Mario, Motta, Mancini and Meki… er Deki.

This is the year for Quaresma. It can be said that he came in very late last season – in September if I am not mistaken – from Portugal where it had been rumored he was not training well in anticipation of his transfer. I personally don’t really buy into that too much, but I can see how that would mess someone up for a while – maybe not a whole season, but a while. However, like some other members of this team, this is a put up or shut up year for Quaresma.



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  • Vinod |  July 15th, 2009 at 1:16 pm

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    I just saw the Maxwell reports. We’re just getting 4.5m euros for him?!? WTF? This guy is one of the best left-backs in the game, and that’s all we get for him? This is outrageous, and I really can’t see how this is happening.

    The good part would be that Santon is now more or less assured of a starting spot, but I think this move is a bad blow for us.

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  • brian |  July 15th, 2009 at 1:17 pm

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    i remember reading that jose would play a 4-4-2 this year now that he has milito. that would allow ricky a place on the wing. i dont really see inter playing that formation tho. who would play on the other? zanetti? i guess it could work.

    cant wait for the derby in boston, only 10 days!

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  • Johonna |  July 15th, 2009 at 1:25 pm

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    Vinod, I am trying not to think about it right now. Maybe there is a player coming the other way involved? or half a player?

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  • Vinod |  July 15th, 2009 at 2:25 pm

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    Well, Barca’s site didn’t say anything about a player deal. However, they did mention that this was the ‘beginning of an agreement’ with Inter for Maxwell. http://www.fcbarcelona.com/web/english/noticies/futbol/temporada09-10/07/n090715105924.html

    Well, we know that Moratti and Laporta are ‘chuddy buddies’ (where ‘chuddy’ = underwear in Hindi, the concept being that you’re so close to someone you’d figuratively share underwear with them) and all, but would Moratti really give up an asset like Maxwell so cheaply? A player deal would make more sense, but if its Eto’o that we’re bargaining for, though, I will be royally pissed. We have enough good strikers, and he’d cost way too much in the long run, and MAD’s point about saving on Maxwell’s 3.something million a year salary would be completely blown away, because that clown thinks he’s worth close to 10m a year.

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  • Vinod |  July 15th, 2009 at 2:31 pm

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    @brian: I doubt Mourinho would switch to a 4-4-2 now. He has too many central midfielders, and too few CONSISTENT wingers to do that. I would have liked us to play 4-4-2 last season itself, when we had Adriano, Cruz and Crespo who are all great in the air, and we had Figo to lend some solidity on the wings. I really don’t think Milito could compete aerially with those three strikers. But when our options on the wing are Ricky, Mancini, Balotelli and maybe Zanetti, I would prefer sticking to a 3 man central midfield. We have 7 valid central midfielders – Cambiasso, Muntari, Zanetti, Motta, Stankovic, Obi and Krhin. So even if 2-3 are injured at a time, we have enough for a rotation policy. On the other hand, if we go 4-4-2, a couple of injuries and the whole system is shot in the rear.

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  • jordi |  July 15th, 2009 at 2:48 pm

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    Is Maxwell in the last year of his contract? It might explain the cheapness if that is the case.

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  • Inter4Life |  July 15th, 2009 at 2:57 pm

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    Yeah, 4.5 seems a little low to me too.

    This transfer window has really been nothing. Just a shit load pf speculation and almost gaining a striker from Twente.

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  • Johonna |  July 15th, 2009 at 3:17 pm

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    I have to think there will be more to this deal. The only way we get Eto’o is if Ibra leaves (throw salt, knock wood).

    Well, I guess that means I have something to write about tonight!

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  • Vinod |  July 15th, 2009 at 3:31 pm

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    @jordi: Yeah, Maxwell’s in the last year of his contract, but 4.5m?? That is ridiculously low for a player of his quality, last year or not. I think we actually spent more than that to buy him from Ajax (if memory serves correctly, it was closer to 6m). And that was when he was virtually unknown. He comes to Inter, transforms into one of the best left-backs in the game, and we sell him for LESS than what we paid for him? How does that make any sense at all?

    You know, I’d have been happier not knowing the amount of money that Barca are paying for him. But they had to go and publish the exact figure. :(

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  • MAD |  July 15th, 2009 at 4:33 pm

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    So, I was looking at the Barcelona roster imagining who could possibly – if anyone – be coming the other way in any sort of deal, and these were my conclusions:

    1. Yaya Toure. We know that Moratti likes him (and he would be the subject of much mirth… thanks to Johonna), but is Maxwell worth more than him? I am clueless about La Liga – but I am going to say no. Plus, do we need another defensive midfielder? On the other hand, the rumor has been that Pep is not his biggest fan – and we know that Yaya can also play center back. In fact, he plays cb on a team that employs a high line and he can bring the ball up the field… kinda like what Mourinho is looking for.

    2. Gabriel Milito. Does the name sound familiar? Yep, it’s Diego’s little brother. He’s a center back and before his knee injury this past May, he was considered to be very solid and very reliable – just like his brother. He’ll be 29 in September at a position that is typically friendly to the aged footballer. He’s also used to playing that high line that Mourinho likes.

    Interesting side note – when he transferred to Barca he was given Thiago Motta’s shirt number… weird, huh.

    3. Hleb. 28 year old outside midfielder/forward wing/attacking midfielder has been riding the bench since he arrived at Barcalona. Used to play for Arse-nal, but he fills a position that Mourinho and Moratti are desperate for. I have heard nothing but bad things about this guy – ball hog who just dribbles, but I have never seen him play. I do recall that before he went to Barcelona he was coveted by Jose or Moratti, I can’t remember which.

    That’s all I can figure… any other speculations?

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  • MAD |  July 15th, 2009 at 4:45 pm

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    P.S. I was just browsing around the Offside, and the Milan folks are upset that they didn’t go for Maxwell. Why, exactly, did they think that we would deal with them?

    Actually I am surprised that Roma didn’t go for him. He could have solved all sorts of problems for them, either as a fullback or as a midfielder on the left.

    Juve we wouldn’t work with, besides Fiorentina is doing just fine fleecing Juve. I have no problems with that. Melo is a good player, but I don’t think he solves anything for them. Besides, did they need another midfielder?

    I am just surprised that a lot of Serie A teams could have used Maxwell didn’t even try, especially considering the glut we have in the defense right now… coughcoughRivascoughcough

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  • Vinod |  July 15th, 2009 at 5:02 pm

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    MAD, about your speculations:

    1) If we’re signing Toure (I’m not saying his first name anymore!) as a CB, that’s not a great idea. Although he played the CL finals, among other games as a CB, he was tactically out of his depth there. I would rather plop for a true CB.

    2) Gaby Milito not only inherited Motta’s number, he also inherited Motta’s injury prone-ness. He’s been out of action practically the whole of last season, and I’m not sure if that’s the kind of player we want at Inter, given we already have more than our fair share of injury prone CBs. On the other hand, he IS a pretty solid defender, and was brought in primarily to compensate for Puyol’s lack of prowess in the air, which is a current problem for us too. And we can probably lowball Barca into giving us a decent deal for him DUE to the injury. And of course, which Argentine wouldn’t like to play for us? :)

    3) Hleb is a dork. I didn’t like him at Arsenal, and I was relieved when Barca took him instead, after we were linked to him for a while. And Mancio wanted him, not Moratti / Mourinho.

    As for other players in their roster, Martin Caceres is an interesting young prospect, and I know that Barca have been trying to send him out on loan this season (to Juventus, if BS.com can be believed). Young Uruguayan central defender. I don’t know if he’s the best we can have, but I’d rather have him over Toure, inspite of Guardiola thinking the other way round. And of course, if we can lay our hands on one of their creative freaks, I would love that. Iniesta for Maxwell, mmm… :P

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  • Vinod |  July 15th, 2009 at 5:06 pm

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    @MAD: In Milan’s defence, we DID deal with them in the past, and produced spectacular players for them. And I think they were in greater need of a full back than Barca. Besides, Maxwell has perfect teeth. :D

    Also, I doubt he would’ve gone to any other Serie A teams, he was trying to make the step UP, which I really doubt he’d get from any Serie A team at present.

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  • Jnice |  July 15th, 2009 at 5:07 pm

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    MAD, Pep loves Yaya now and he just signed a new deal 3 weeks ago. He is one of the best dms in the world and one of the fan favorites. It would be foolish for Barca to include him in any sort of deal.

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  • MAD |  July 15th, 2009 at 5:21 pm

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    Yeah, I know that we have dealt with Milan before but there was usually a catch when we did – like Milan were going to Sere B so we took a useful player, or we thought a player was kinda past it. The most recent time that we didn’t outsmart them with a deal was when we sent Pirlo over, cause we just didn’t know how to use him. I don’t think we have done a whole lot of business together (outside of fixing our books together and getting caught) since that one… it still smarts, I think.

    I have to say, I really like the teeth comment. That was funny. I just think that their defense is sitting just the way we want it, right now. I can’t see how we would want to give them a decent player like Maxwell and help bail them out of their own mess.

    I thought that I heard that Toure was a bench warmer now that Busquets is the regular starter… I could be wrong, I don’t really care a whole lot about Barca.

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  • Tomatutomate |  July 15th, 2009 at 5:38 pm

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    THE YAYA as we Culés call him is a monster covetted by oh so many teams. He is great and a no question about it starter. No way know how would we sell him rght now definately not for Maxwell. Thanks for the player though. I think what brought his price down was the rumours that The special one was not too fond of him, couple that and the fact that he had a serious injury and in the last year of his contract makes it seem lie a good buy for Barça. If you guys are wanting to offload Ibra we will gve you Eto’o + Hleb plus 15 mil. :-)

    MAD I saw your comment over at our place we will try to return the favour.

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  • Jnice |  July 15th, 2009 at 5:41 pm

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    Busquets is not a regular starter, The Yaya is. Busquets gets his fair amount of games, though. Hopefully, there will more light shed on this deal tomorrow.

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  • Kabir |  July 15th, 2009 at 7:13 pm

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    I’m quite upset by Maxwell’s departure…just think it’s too soon to make Santon the permanent starter. Also, we now need some fullback backup. The Barca players I would want are the not-for-sale ones. But on the other hand if this helps us budget for Ladesma or Hamsik I would be happy.

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  • Vinod |  July 15th, 2009 at 7:28 pm

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    @Kabir: 4.5m is not the kind of amount that can fund a Hamsik raid, don’t you think? :P

    @Tomatutomate: Gee, that’s generous. How sweet of you!

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  • Kabir |  July 15th, 2009 at 7:35 pm

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    haha of course not…i was thinking we maybe had 10mn already and now the extra 4.5 or 5, as well as freed up salary, will make it possible. to be honest i don’t think either hamsik or ladesma will come.

    i really hope someone is coming, but i don’t want it to be a quaresma-like situation (if the lateness really was the reason for his terrible form).

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  • Dave |  July 15th, 2009 at 8:42 pm

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    Im pretty sure the price was so low because he was in the last year of his deal. Why would Barca pay a lot now when they can get him for free next year? I bet a bunch of clubs were interested but Maxwell just chose Barca

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  • Barindera |  July 15th, 2009 at 10:46 pm

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    Hi guys, My opinon on why we let Maxwell go, is because yes he is in the final year of his contract plus he is not a very smart defensive minded defender. Mourinho saw this last year. I think what this move, it will allow for us to play captain Zanetti at right or left back as a back up on the depth chart(plus Chivu is also capable of playing that position, as he will be fighting for playing time with Samuel and Cordoba in central defence) Now if we ever need Zanetti to play left or right back it will allow another one of our midfielders to get more playing time. Because we know with Zanetti Cambiasso Quaresma Muntari and now Motta we have some depth at that position, and maybe we might even add that creative midfielder we having been needing forever!

    In my opinon we now need to…
    Offload: Viera, Obina, Burdisso Rivas and Mancini.
    Add: A big central defender and yes that creative midfielder.

    5 more players out 2 in. That should leave us with 25 players I believe.

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  • Vinod |  July 15th, 2009 at 10:53 pm

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    Barindera, I believe that Zanetti would probably continue in midfield, while Santon will make his big splash this season. I’m almost certain he’s the reason we let Maxwell go without much of a fight. Other than the fact that Max’s contract was expiring…

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  • Ben |  July 16th, 2009 at 6:43 am

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    he was a hot prospect 5 years ago when he played for porto and Barca

    http://footballfraternity.wordpress.com/

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  • AlyBasto |  July 18th, 2009 at 3:02 pm

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    i like burdisso.
    seeing figo, cruz, adriano, crespo, recoba and now maxwell leave in the space of a year(?) i don’t think i could take another one leaving whos been at inter so long.
    who’s next…cordoba? materazzi? Zanetti?
    i wouldn’t even be surprised.

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